PropagandaWishful Thinking

Label:

ZTT – ZAS 20

Series:

Action Series – 20

Format:

Vinyl , LP, Album, Limited Edition

Country:

UK

Released:

Genre:

Electronic

Style:

Synth-pop

Tracklist

Here: Disturbdances Of Songs By Propaganda 20:07
A1 Abuse
Written-ByDorper*
3:29
A2 Machined 6:54
A3 Laughed!
Written-By [A Piece Originally Written By]Paul Haig
8:54
A4 Loving 0:46
There: Disturbdances Of Songs By Propaganda 21:22
B1 Jewelled 7:48
B2 Loved 6:43
B3 Abuse
Written-ByDorper*
4:17
B4 Thought 2:42

Companies, etc.

  • Phonographic Copyright ℗ZTT
  • Copyright ©ZTT
  • Manufactured ByIsland Records
  • Distributed ByIsland Records
  • Pressed ByEMI Records

Credits

  • Design [Sleeve Designed]ZTT
  • Direct Metal Mastering ByCopperman (2)
  • Painting [Cover]Brücken*
  • Photography ByPeter Brown (23)
  • Producer [Original Material Produced By]T.C. Horn*
  • Remix [Reproductions By]P. Morley*
  • Tape Op [Tape Operator]Paul Wright
  • Written-By [Propaganda Music Written Up By]Susanne Freytag

Notes

Front cover:
(for the footsteps and heartbeats of the connoisseur)
❛Wishful Thinking❜
is disturbdances of five songs
by
Propaganda

Back cover:
Zas twenty: "wishful thinking": sarm studio disturbdances of 5 Propaganda songs
39 studio hours of bending, repeating, arranging and editing by Robert Kraushaar and Paul Morley from original material produced by S.J. Lipson and T.C. Horn for the long player 'A Secret Wish'. Tape operator: paul wright.
Produced in a limited edition by Z.T.T. Records and Japes for Island Records U.S.A. and released in Europe as a souvenir of Propaganda's autumn 1985 outside world "tour". Propaganda performed by claudia brücken (vocals) susanne freytag (vocals) and michael mertens (percussion) with the assistance of derek forbes (bass) brian mcGee (drums) kevin armstrong (guitar). Not in performance: ralf dorper.

[this is the line-up of the Outside World tour, not the credits for the Wishful Thinking recordings]

There is a poem of Goethe in which these lines occur:
"Und umzuschaffen das Gesschaffene
Dass sich's nicht zum Starren waffne
Wikt ewiges lebendiges Thun"

Which can be roughly translated:
"and refashioning the fashioned
lest it stiffen into iron
is work of endless vital activity"

photography: john stoddart, peter brown. sleeve designed by ZTT and contract 3 at 20 in the action series.
cover painting: brücken

Individual track durations not listed on release.

Labels:
℗ + © 1984/5 ZTT

Spine:
℗ + © ZTT 1985

Some copies came with fold-out poster.

Barcode and Other Identifiers

  • Matrix / Runout (Variant 1, runout side A): ZAS 20 A-1U-1-1 - Copperman D
  • Matrix / Runout (Variant 1, runout side B): ZAS 20 B-1U-1-1
  • Matrix / Runout (Variant 2, runout side A): ZAS 20 A-1U-1-1 -X1 Copperman D
  • Matrix / Runout (Variant 2, runout side B): ZAS 20 B-1U-1-1-X1 D
  • Matrix / Runout (Variant 3, runout side A): ZAS 20 A-1U-1-1-1 Copperman. D
  • Matrix / Runout (Variant 3, runout side B): ZAS 20 B-1U-1-1-x1 D

Other Versions (5 of 42)

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Title (Format) Label Cat# Country Year
Wishful Thinking (CD, Album) ZTT ZCID Q20, ZCIDQ 20 UK 1985
Recently Edited
Wishful Thinking (Cassette, Album, White Cassette) ZTT CZAS 20 UK 1985
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Wishful Thinking (LP, Album) Festival Records L 18005 New Zealand 1985
Recently Edited
Wishful Thinking (LP, Album, Limited Edition, Stereo, DMM) ZTT 207 439, 207 439-273 Europe 1985
New Submission
Wishful Thinking (LP, Album, Limited Edition) Island Records ISP 1078 Canada 1985

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Reviews

  • Sumogirl's avatar
    Sumogirl
    Edited 3 years ago
    Going to be honest here. This is a non-descript eurosynth album with female vocals. It drones a LOT and it functions as background music - hard to really focus on but kind of annoying at the same time. The problem is the beat doesn't really change at all. It's made to be played in a disco. The vocal arrangements are very derivative, and intentionally arty, which can work and at the time probably resonated. But as I'm listening to it - I can't wait for it to be over so I can listen to something, more interesting. Almost anything would be better than this. The beats just don't change AT ALL through songs, which are hugely long. . Didn't bother to listen to side 2.
    • mjb's avatar
      mjb
      Edited 7 years ago
      A mostly instrumental, completely unnecessary collection of "hard" remixes and meandering reprises for the die-hard fans of Propaganda. I do appreciate ZTT's then-radical impulse to keep reworking as much of their catalog as possible, but nothing here is memorable on its own; it's all just "reminders" of the better versions on the album A Secret Wish. Unintentionally, it's also a reminder that Propaganda only really had enough material for 3 high-quality singles, and there were already quite enough versions of those songs to choose from.
      • rev.robert's avatar
        rev.robert
        this is one of those cases where the remix album has more balls than the original album.

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