🎚️ 🎹 🎧 New Hardcore VINYL Releases worthy of some hype ☠️

Starting a thread to cover new releases worthy of some hype so that we can keep it all in one place.
I'll start with 2 eps including tracks from Total Output:

https://discogs.programascracks.com/Total-Output-Oraj-Untitled/release/16890915
previews
http://www.toolboxrecords.com/en/product/36282/hardcore/sodom-21/

Very reminiscent of the old DBN acidcore style. Great to see Sean back releasing again, although in the notes it says this track is from an old demo. I quite like the B2 track by Oraj also, sounds like early Micropoint style.

and

https://discogs.programascracks.com/Total-Output-Untitled/release/17718772
previews:
http://www.toolboxrecords.com/en/product/36770/hardcore/sans-pitie-08/

This has more of a newschool sound to it, but what I love about Total Output is that he has his own unique style so it's very different from anything else currently being released. Sounds like he's sampled The Mover in the b2 track.

Saw another new 90s style release recently:

https://discogs.programascracks.com/Various-Welcome-To-Ravers-Land/release/17377174
can't find previews for it though :(

Nice to see more of the 90s revival stuff on vinyl in any case.

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Saw another new 90s style release recently:

That's also a nice one. But only on CD.
https://discogs.programascracks.com/Various-Ouwe-Stijl-Is-Botergeil-The-Compilation-2021/release/17692735
https://soundcloud.com/strength-of-unity/sets/ouwe-stijl-is-botergeil-osib-cd-001

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Saw another new 90s style release recently:

https://discogs.programascracks.com/Various-Welcome-To-Ravers-Land/release/17377174
can't find previews for it though :(

Nice to see more of the 90s revival stuff on vinyl in any case.

here's one of the tracks:

https://soundcloud.com/enemycore909/enemycore-909-event-horizon

There's loads of retro hardcore coming out at the moment, 96-98 gabber and speedcore style. I think Ruffneck kickstarted the revival, and maybe Mokum.
I'm in two minds about this stuff myself, I mean I much prefer it to new hardcore but it's mostly just re-cycling ideas that have been done before. On the other hand, it's good that this style is easily accessible to the younger generation, much better them buying this than uptempo! (does uptempo even get pressed on vinyl?)

Nekro
I'm in two minds about this stuff myself, I mean I much prefer it to new hardcore but it's mostly just re-cycling ideas that have been done before.

I see it as being a bit like the 90s breakbeat revival stuff. When that first started to appear in the 00s, it was largely made by UK oldskool obsessives and thus very recursive in its influences - often still good, but very faithful to the early 90s UK sound. Sometimes even recycling the same samples.

But then in the last few years, that stuff has broadened - and some of it is made by people in different countries, or people who weren't even born in the early 90s, or both - and so they bring their own influences into it. Some of that stuff is still faithful to the old sound, but some of it has all sorts of other stuff in it too.

So whilst some of the new early hardcore does just sound like old Ruffneck or Cenobite, I hope that the longer it carries on, the more you'll get new producers adding in some different ideas into the mix. And it'll become less of a "90s revival" thing.

And I think you could also have some of what happened to house too, with new producers embracing lo-fi a bit more and moving away from the ultra-clean, over compressed sound.

That's what I hope anyway, I don't follow it closely enough to know if this is happening. But it seems inevitable, especially when young kids who weren't even really alive in the mid 90s are getting involved.

from the looks of it there's a repress of Doormouse - Skelechairs on the way - too late to order a copy but I'm sure some copies will show up here, hopefully not all stupidly priced!

https://doormouse.bandcamp.com/campaign/Skelechairs

Nice thread idea to share our interest in newer stuff!

I'll try to keep it postive and not turning into a groaning post! ;-) As Nekro, I see this 90s Hardcore revival from both sides of the medal. On one hand I find it's kinda cool and even exciting for some releases and on the other side there is a whole bunch of mediocre stuff surfing on this wave which is too formulaic and doesn't bring a lot of new twists to what was produced in the nineties.

I think the two main qualities of the nineties stuff were :
1- Spontaneity : people were just trying things, sometimes with no idea on how to use their production tools and this lead to lots of innovations, even if some were created by accident.
2- the Tracker softwares (or the limited access to expensive analog equipment) : limitation is always a good thing for creative purpose. I reading a post from Laurent Ho a few years ago where he basically said Trackers were what allowed all this crazy stuff to be produced in the 90s because with only 4 tracks available in the software, they had to be really picky to select the best sounds and samples they would use.

While nowadays, one can have access to so many tools, softwares and gears in production that it can sometimes leads to tracks that have too many elements, or that are trying to do and use so many tools and directions that the listener can quickly get lost or bored. This is especially true with all this analog and "synth porn" stuff, where you see a guy in his studio (sometimes a very well known guy who produced amazing stuff in the past) with literally dozens of synthesizer connected with thousands of wires, tons of LEDs flickering, twiddling several knobs at the same time and the sound that comes out of the speaker is just weak and boring "experimental" stuff that doesn't sound better than me trying to figure how my mate's Korg Electribe was working (and believe me, that was really really bad ha ha!).

But I Digress.

Also, some big names are releasing some unreleased stuff produced back in the 90s. And while some of it stuff is awesome, some other are weaker and you can actually hear why they haven't been released back then because they can stand the comparison.

But enough groaning, let's talk about exciting stuff (at least to me) that came out recently :
I found the Radium "1997" and "1998" released out on Hardcore industrial Crew interesting :
https://discogs.programascracks.com/Radium-1998/release/17239081

I'm also digging the "Rave Or Die" track by M. Acardipane out on Rave or Die :
https://discogs.programascracks.com/Various-Rave-Encounter-Vol-2/master/1976473

and speaking about M. Acardipane, I also like the record by Cuften recently released on his Planet Phuture output. I'm waiting for it to arrive as well as the PRSPCT 250 by Celsius which is talked about in another thread.
https://discogs.programascracks.com/Cuften-Solar-Ashes/master/1960318

And last mention for the CoreCreator 04 which is cool, in my opinion :
https://discogs.programascracks.com/Cyrilien-The-Remix-Project/release/17692954

Freakos
But enough groaning, let's talk about exciting stuff (at least to me) that came out recently :
I found the Radium "1997" and "1998" released out on Hardcore industrial Crew interesting :
https://discogs.programascracks.com/Radium-1998/release/17239081

Good shout, these are awesome. I'm assuming the tracks were produced in the years indicated on each and not him replicating the sound with his equipment today. It's interesting to hear the evolution of Radium's style as it progresses to the 2000 and 2003 releases. These, along with the Underground Music release (https://discogs.programascracks.com/Micropoint-Unreleased-Vol-1-1996-1997/master/1801887) are standout records and the best speedcore that has been released for years imo. I think they've slipped under the radar a bit, not so much hype when compared to SODOM. These will be a permanent fixture in my record bag and I can't wait to spin them at a dirty warehouse squat party!
I ed on the Rave or Die, Acardipane's track sounded like a lazy effort to me. The Cuften I thought sounded too much like MS but not as good so I didn't bother picking that up either. That Core Creator is interesting, I'm going to check out some of the other releases - not really familiar with this label.

As for your comments on the 90s revival I completely agree. It must be a challenge for the younger artists to replicate this sound by restricting the tools they have available these days.

Freakos
I think the two main qualities of the nineties stuff were :
1- Spontaneity : people were just trying things, sometimes with no idea on how to use their production tools and this lead to lots of innovations, even if some were created by accident.
2- the Tracker softwares (or the limited access to expensive analog equipment) : limitation is always a good thing for creative purpose. I reading a post from Laurent Ho a few years ago where he basically said Trackers were what allowed all this crazy stuff to be produced in the 90s because with only 4 tracks available in the software, they had to be really picky to select the best sounds and samples they would use.

The other thing is just the basic fact that it was all new then. So someone like Delta 9 could put out 10 tracks which are just a few samples, hoovers and the same kickdrum - that sounded fresh in 1995 when he was doing it for the first time.

25+ years later, it's much harder to make something that would sound fresh to grizzled old cynics like us who have already heard several thousand hardcore tunes. I don't think there's any way around that.

But then again I suppose the other side of that is - it's also not really FOR us. I think a lot of these tunes are made for younger people who aren't as familiar with the old tunes. So a tune in that formula is just as exciting if it's brand new, than if it was made 25 years ago.

And I suppose I'm still happy with a tune in a predictable formula if it's decent.

Following :) always nice to get some updates on new releases.

who does not know the original will not miss anything in the copy.( or revival in this case)

Nekro
It's interesting to hear the evolution of Radium's style as it progresses to the 2000 and 2003 releases.

you might better say
"it is interesting to hear the "development" of radiums style, as it "regresses" to the 2000 and 2003 releases."
that is more what i hear. as usually with his or micropoints outputafter 99/2000.

fly_free
you might better say
"it is interesting to hear the "development" of radiums style, as it "regresses" to the 2000 and 2003 releases."
that is more what i hear. as usually with his or micropoints outputafter 99/2000.

haha yes, that's exactly what I was trying to express but you have chosen the right words.

Some interesting takes on classics by P
https://discogs.programascracks.com/Marc-Acardipane-The-Most-Famous-Unknown-Remixes-V4/release/14980477

Nordcore on Mokum:
https://discogs.programascracks.com/Nordcore-G-M-B-H-Pandemic-EP/master/1798071

Oldskool mokum on Mokum: (actually Mokum has been putting out some nice tunes)
https://discogs.programascracks.com/Various-Fking-Hardcore-12-World-Resistance/master/1714216

Return of Terrordrome:
https://discogs.programascracks.com/Various-Terrordrome-XI-The-Resurrection/release/17812261

The Berzerker announced a new album for March 2020, maybe delayed, I am curious.

Irish back in the game too, some kicking P-worthy tunes here:
https://discogs.programascracks.com/Dr-Strange-The-Dead/release/15782159

And the ONLY Acardipane & Miro track:
https://soundcloud.com/planet-phuture/burning-sky-feat-miro-original
(kicking! I wish there was more of this...)

Hardmageddon
Some interesting takes on classics by P

check the B side on this: https://discogs.programascracks.com/Coco-Bryce-Gunna-A-New-Mind/release/12905959 - basically a breakbeat hardcore version of "A New Mind".

i like how both him and FFF still show their Dutch roots by occasionally sampling old hardcore in their jungle/breakbeat work.

He has also released a couple of EPs with definite 90s Dutch hardcore influences:
https://discogs.programascracks.com/DJ-Y-Coco-Bryce-Speed-Fever-Get-On-Up/release/15491259 (A side)

He's basically my favourite currently active producer, although most of his work isn't for this forum.

Also there's this from 2 years ago - old unreleased pre-Hellfish tunes. Mostly breakbeat but the B2 "Essex Acid" is from 93 and thus probably the first "gabber" type track Hellfish every did.
https://discogs.programascracks.com/Secret-Squirrel-Need-Some-Boom/release/13546564

OK and here's a real wildcard...modern release by two 90s jungle artists (Missing and M-Beat)...but the B side remix is full of distorted kicks! so it almost sounds like a more mellow version of DJ Scud: https://discogs.programascracks.com/Demagrafiks-Soundman-Riddim/release/16167871 - that one really took me by surprise. (first new thing M-Beat has done in many many years too)

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check the B side on this: https://discogs.programascracks.com/Coco-Bryce-Gunna-A-New-Mind/release/12905959 - basically a breakbeat hardcore version of "A New Mind".

and better than most of the tracks on the acardipane remix project.

Absolutely. I do think they missed a trick not having a couple of modern dark breakbeat remixes on those EPs. I mean there's definitely a few UK breakbeat artists who were influenced by P.

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HardmageddonSome interesting takes on classics by P

check the B side on this: https://discogs.programascracks.com/Coco-Bryce-Gunna-A-New-Mind/release/12905959 - basically a breakbeat hardcore version of "A New Mind".

i like how both him and FFF still show their Dutch roots by occasionally sampling old hardcore in their jungle/breakbeat work.

He has also released a couple of EPs with definite 90s Dutch hardcore influences:
https://discogs.programascracks.com/DJ-Y-Coco-Bryce-Speed-Fever-Get-On-Up/release/15491259 (A side)

He's basically my favourite currently active producer, although most of his work isn't for this forum.

Also there's this from 2 years ago - old unreleased pre-Hellfish tunes. Mostly breakbeat but the B2 "Essex Acid" is from 93 and thus probably the first "gabber" type track Hellfish every did.
https://discogs.programascracks.com/Secret-Squirrel-Need-Some-Boom/release/13546564

OK and here's a real wildcard...modern release by two 90s jungle artists (Missing and M-Beat)...but the B side remix is full of distorted kicks! so it almost sounds like a more mellow version of DJ Scud: https://discogs.programascracks.com/Demagrafiks-Soundman-Riddim/release/16167871 - that one really took me by surprise. (first new thing M-Beat has done in many many years too)

I like that Essex Acid track. Like something from the old Labworks, Force Inc, Overdrive, Boscaland labels.

Talking of old deathchant, diplomat has a 'new' old school ep on my friend Brents label

https://discogs.programascracks.com/Diplomat-Washing-Machine-EP/release/17253715

Nekro
does uptempo even get pressed on vinyl?

I don't think so. These high pitched kicks would sound even more awful on vinyl I guess.

baldarse
Talking of old deathchant, diplomat has a 'new' old school ep on my friend Brents label

I like that EP, not as manic as Diplomat's actual oldskool, has a bit of a Basement feel to it.

Not picked up any of the Amen Brother releases but Vinyl Fanatiks is a great label. Given how shoddy some of the represses that come out these days, the effort he puts into everything is irable.

Brent seems sound too, was very helpful when there was an issue with one of my orders.

Yeah he's doing a great job, he's had to go vat ed so forced to raise vinyl prices. He's selling out of almost every press.

Interesting take on Gabber/Breakcore with influences out of Indonesia and his music: https://discogs.programascracks.com/Gabber-Modus-Operandi-HOXXXYA/release/15041977

New label out of my neighbourhood. Berlin's Bunker Gabba style: https://discogs.programascracks.com/label/1769693-Independent-Bloc-36

I had a discussion with a friend about the recent P reissues, in relation to the original releases and the the style, obscurity and humour in it.
we speculated about the idea, that a lot of the quirky drive behind the labels, concepts , monikers, backstorys , inside jokes, etc pp in the whole p universe, possibly can be written on Thorsten Lambarts , while Marc was a catalysator for that and the other half of the brain for everything technical.
Because on all the reissues( starting maybe as early as early 2000s), mostly the newest stuff, all the obscurity around act names is gone, acardipane is written everywhere ,sometimes even put it under wrong names. or releasing a mover best of (bodaie) with having a mescalinum united track in between. A lot of the charme is not carried by the music alone!
And also not through generic sometimes rather pointless remix dutys,probably by people where triple vinyl has too much backstock in the shelfs and needing a sales boost. :)

Hardmageddon

Return of Terrordrome:
https://discogs.programascracks.com/Various-Terrordrome-XI-The-Resurrection/release/17812261

Everything i heard about and read myself about this "relaunch" seems to be extremely shady, unreliable, making up storys, even insulting people who voiced their resentment about those methods,he is sporting some of the most clichè hardcore "asbo" phrases and this misconcept of man thinking hardcore means being windy rude and macho. in the subtext of the delay storys you can really read/ feel the yarn spinners shifty-eyed face :) red flag from afar. Almost like he had a list to greate a pime example of failing, with every single thing, that can be done done wrong, ticked off. also a stupid way to demolish a brand that still a lot of people like from back then, surely for many different reasons and preference. turning it into a case of seeing someone /something run a thing long enough, to see it turning rancid ( or get resurrected like TD, directly from the pet cemetery and back), better starting something at some point instead of ridng a dead horse with a name to exploit , but everything else stayed in the 90ies. a lot of people doing such things, but having not the slightest feeling and intutions about it. and learning effect stagnates at ~0%. at least consistent in being inconsistent.
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[offtopic] Generally speaking kinda off topic, another thing that can end stale, is meeting persons behind music (or any other art), you like,( many nice persons met of course, no doubt. ), but als not selsom learning that you better not met this person, because from then onwards you feel like someone belches a wet, sour Burp in your face, every time you listen to their stuff, and respect for this person dwindles slowly over time aswell.
But it is also good to see, that in some cases people, in certain scenes and circles, why such people had to leave the city or country for some time, a few years earlier, till the dust settles, from screwing so many, that a move was needed, but doing the same thing in the next place/scene again, leaving for the same reasons there too and/or being back after some years pretending or believing , that nobody can . And often enoughs "alternative, inclusive scenes", tent to be backwater for such characters because it takes ages till they get kicked out for being assholes and deceivers.
also, the more extreme music styles attracts nasty "personnel" who are erratic , more toxic and destructive, as the rest of the scene is full of the nicest peaceful people ( as the saying goes,).[/offtopic]

Well, I know the first hand the stories about this release and I feel sorry about it. Specially sorry for the artwork, something so easy to change. The tracklist is actually decent and what you would expect of Terrordrome. Maybe a future release will change things, but I fear this could have been the final nail in the coffin.

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check the B side on this: https://discogs.programascracks.com/Coco-Bryce-Gunna-A-New-Mind/release/12905959 - basically a breakbeat hardcore version of "A New Mind".

Approved! :D
Check this also from Rave or Die label: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSt5XG__zhg&t=4s
Could be Mover in early 90's releasing this!

SIL-E
New label out of my neighbourhood. Berlin's Bunker Gabba style: https://discogs.programascracks.com/label/1769693-Independent-Bloc-36

Nihil Fist is back?! AWESOME!

Hardmageddon
Nihil Fist is back?! AWESOME!

already since ~2 years with a lot more releases of his sound, well documented livesets and more dj sets under his under null name. i think he gave us the first online liveset after the hiatus (and short after playing as nf at a friends party after 9 years) for our turbologism radio show in april 2019. a lot of things happened because things happened. was good to see it happen :)
- https://soundcloud.com/zombieflesheater/sets/turbologism-pt-iii-05-04-19
- https://soundcloud.com/turbologism

Hardmageddon
Well, I know the first hand the stories about this release and I feel sorry about it. Specially sorry for the artwork, something so easy to change. The tracklist is actually decent and what you would expect of Terrordrome. Maybe a future release will change things, but I fear this could have been the final nail in the coffin.

What's the story behind this?

unibomber
What's the story behind this?

https://facebook.com/terrordrome.music/

fly_free
I had a discussion with a friend about the recent P reissues, in relation to the original releases and the the style, obscurity and humour in it.
we speculated about the idea, that a lot of the quirky drive behind the labels, concepts , monikers, backstorys , inside jokes, etc pp in the whole p universe, possibly can be written on Thorsten Lambarts , while Marc was a catalysator for that and the other half of the brain for everything technical.
Because on all the reissues( starting maybe as early as early 2000s), mostly the newest stuff, all the obscurity around act names is gone, acardipane is written everywhere ,sometimes even put it under wrong names. or releasing a mover best of (bodaie) with having a mescalinum united track in between. A lot of the charme is not carried by the music alone!

I heard the same from someone in the P crew (????). Thorsten was responsible for all of Marc's pseudonyms, the ideas behind the artwork, curating the tracks for each release, distribution, the whole ethos behind the label etc....and Marc was responsible for the music. He deserves much more credit than he receives, disappointing that he didn't get much of a mention in that Red Bull interview Marc did.

Hardmageddon
Check this also from Rave or Die label: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSt5XG__zhg&t=4s
Could be Mover in early 90's releasing this!

Top record, although a few years old now - agreed it definitely has that P feel to it.

fly_free
I had a discussion with a friend about the recent P reissues, in relation to the original releases and the the style, obscurity and humour in it.
we speculated about the idea, that a lot of the quirky drive behind the labels, concepts , monikers, backstorys , inside jokes, etc pp in the whole p universe, possibly can be written on Thorsten Lambarts , while Marc was a catalysator for that and the other half of the brain for everything technical.
Because on all the reissues( starting maybe as early as early 2000s), mostly the newest stuff, all the obscurity around act names is gone, acardipane is written everywhere ,sometimes even put it under wrong names. or releasing a mover best of (bodaie) with having a mescalinum united track in between. A lot of the charme is not carried by the music alone!
And also not through generic sometimes rather pointless remix dutys,probably by people where triple vinyl has too much backstock in the shelfs and needing a sales boost. :)

You are absolutely right about that. Marc even spoke about this in a recent interview. All the names and creativity behind them came from Thorsten's mind.
Nowadays it's more about "keeping the status" and live from the fruits of the past. But it's also kind of understandable imo.

fly_free
[offtopic] Generally speaking kinda off topic, another thing that can end stale, is meeting persons behind music (or any other art), you like,( many nice persons met of course, no doubt. ), but als not selsom learning that you better not met this person, because from then onwards you feel like someone belches a wet, sour Burp in your face, every time you listen to their stuff, and respect for this person dwindles slowly over time aswell.[/offtopic]

True. That's something I learned about 15-20 years ago when meeting a lot of people backstage and behind the scenes. I hated some of these facts but in the end these eye opening moments were necesarry to understand what's really going on.

i think it's a lesson that we all learn at some point, that people who like the same obscure thing as you don't often have the same values as you, to put it nicely :D

thankfully most electronic music has quite a bit of separation from the artist - I don't really know much about most of the people who's music I love, than I might do if I was a big fan of a band, for example.

although when the artist who turns out to be a terrible person was also your friend then it's different...

fly_free
But it is also good to see, that in some cases people, in certain scenes and circles, why such people had to leave the city or country for some time, a few years earlier, till the dust settles, from screwing so many, that a move was needed, but doing the same thing in the next place/scene again, leaving for the same reasons there too and/or being back after some years pretending or believing , that nobody can . And often enoughs "alternative, inclusive scenes", tent to be backwater for such characters because it takes ages till they get kicked out for being assholes and deceivers.

I can think of a couple of artists (relatively big names) that i've heard lots of bad things about - and i always wonder if they would be able to get away with stuff like that in a more "mainstream" scene. Iit does seem to be a phenomenon in more niche communities ("the missing stair" i think it's called).

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i think it's a lesson that we all learn at some point, that people who like the same obscure thing as you don't often have the same values as you, to put it nicely :D

thankfully most electronic music has quite a bit of separation from the artist - I don't really know much about most of the people who's music I love, than I might do if I was a big fan of a band, for example.

I make your words my own.

fly_free
[offtopic] Generally speaking kinda off topic, another thing that can end stale, is meeting persons behind music (or any other art), you like,( many nice persons met of course, no doubt. ), but als not selsom learning that you better not met this person, because from then onwards you feel like someone belches a wet, sour Burp in your face, every time you listen to their stuff, and respect for this person dwindles slowly over time aswell.

I've booked many artists over the years and I can honestly say that 90% of them have been genuine, honest and very pleasant people to deal with. ittedly these are people on the more underground side of the hardcore scene. I have met some Dutch and German artists at parties who clearly have let their ego get the better of them though.

https://discogs.programascracks.com/Promo-Totally-Lost-It/release/17927461

To add to the interesting tangent, most of the big Hardcore artists I've met have been super cool, some have been awful and reminds me of the phrase: "Never meet your idols."

This is an awesome thread, by the way, you are all doing a fantastic job. :)

fly_free
Because on all the reissues( starting maybe as early as early 2000s), mostly the newest stuff, all the obscurity around act names is gone, acardipane is written everywhere ,sometimes even put it under wrong names. or releasing a mover best of (bodaie) with having a mescalinum united track in between. A lot of the charme is not carried by the music alone!
And also not through generic sometimes rather pointless remix dutys,probably by people where triple vinyl has too much backstock in the shelfs and needing a sales boost. :)

+1

I just don't get the vibe of the re-issues. Although I am really a P sound adept,
I have none of these. P sound is just not suitable for these kind of projects or something.
The OG P releases are a concept including artwork etc..

What's strange is that the last few years have seen a real explosion in 90s represses - classic techno, house, breakbeat, jungle etc. Some of them done by the original labels, some through 3rd party labels dedicated to reissuing old classics. But most of them have the sense to follow the original releases as much as possible. Sometimes referencing the original artwork, or at the very least repressing the full original release, including the B sides.

That's why I found it weird that those P represses went for that "compilation" approach in cherry picking the most famous tunes in "best of" EPs. Same with the recent Ruffneck represses too, in fact.

I would think that especially these days the people who buy vinyl are more likely to be collectors or die-hard fans - who would want something that's as close to the original as possible. If people are still willing to spend 20+ euros on an original then a repress that's very similar is a lot more appealing than a record with generic artwork with only 1 track off the EP you want...

Does seem like hardcore is behind the curve on this one.

Back on topic, big repress coming from Toolbox:

http://www.toolboxrecords.com/en/product/36975/hardcore/gti-006-rp-sold-out-on-pre/

Already sold out

does anyone know anything about this? No idea when the pre-order started or anything. Doesn't seem to be on here which is a bit odd. And 20 euros for a picture disc isn't great.

But I am curious to hear the tracks: https://waxweazleshop.com/vinyl/waxweazle-vinyl-bubblegum-picture-disc-pre-order/

https://discogs.programascracks.com/Mugen-H8-Fifth-Era-Doom-HK-Power-Of-Fear-EP/release/18063580

baldarse
Already sold out

Its preorder for now.

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does anyone know anything about this?

Not out yet. No previews, just a short video by Rob Fabrie on Facebook. Original 90s Waxweazle sound. Even one unreleased demo track from '94. More releases are planned.

Feye2017
baldarseAlready sold out

Its preorder for now.

Huh?

It says sold out

SIL-E
Not out yet. No previews, just a short video by Rob Fabrie on Facebook. Original 90s Waxweazle sound. Even one unreleased demo track from '94. More releases are planned.

ah cool. interested to hear it. although 20 euro for a new release is pretty bad.

Well I think in general a lot of the new records are pretty expensive. Maybe because they re limited but still.

It does say 300 were pressed which is pretty typical for a new release I think, and most new records I find are like 10 to 14 euro max. I guess it might be because it's a picture disc (although does anyone actually like picture discs?)

baldarse
It says sold out

Yes, it seems all the copies got reserved in pre-orders for that GTI repress. The website says all pre-orders placed after march 29th may not be served.

And about prices on new records, I must second traffic_cone words, 20€ (or sometimes more) for a new record is really expensive even if I know it costs a lot to press a vinyl nowadays, especially if pressed in small quantitites. But i must it I skipped on some records just because of the price tag recenlty. And I would probably have ordered them if they were 10/12 euros only. Ha, I regret the good ol' SoundBase Music days with awesome records for really cheap price (sometimes less than 10 euros for the "home" labels : Strike & all, damned, that was awesome!)

Also, to stay on topic, there is another SODOM record by Oraj & Desolation that should be out on friday at Toolbox ;-)

I been having a sort through my records and noticed most of my old deathchants' have price stickers on 4.99 or 5.49 - those were the days

When I started buying records in 97 in my local shop it was 5 for a UK release, 8 for an import. And even maybe 15 years on from that, most of the new stuff i was buying from UK online shops was if anything cheaper.

So the fact that most releases now are more like £10 isn't actually that bad - really it's more interesting that the prices stayed static for so long.

And of course i think a lot of it comes from the fact that fewer copies are pressed now - but also the market for vinyl tends to be older collectors (who are also more critical about pressings and interested in special artwork etc).

Until this week I hadn't seen these H2OH releases: Demonax – Hardcore Panic is getting a full release as a picture disc. Expected release is June 2021 and can be pre ordered at Ultimate House Merchandise.

Not sure when it's released, but could be fun: DJ Waxweazle - Bubblegum (Picture Disc)

https://ultimatehousemerchandise.com/P17793-PG536-DJ-Waxweazle---Bubblegum-Picture-Disc-Pre-Order.html

RuffEd
Until this week I hadn't seen these H2OH releases: Omar Santana – Slave Invaders EP repress and Omar Santana – Crate Classics Volume III.

Demonax – Hardcore Panic is getting a full release as a picture disc. Expected release is June 2021 and can be pre ordered at Ultimate House Merchandise.

Both solid releases, these seem to have slipped under the radar I haven't seen any info about these anywhere. I use Toolbox as a comprehensive source for new releases but must to check UHM more regularly now.

Ultimate House Merchandise releases a lot of interesting stuff atm. Only on vinyl, CD or even cassette tape. No digital formats.

It is definitely harder in general to keep track of new releases now there's fewer shops and stuff is spread out more amongst individual label bandcamps and webstores.

Nice to see more early hardcore represses and releases of obscurities. Surprised that hasn't happened more to be honest.

Especially from labels that are still running - I'm surprised Mokum or Cenobite haven't repressed some of their sought after classics, you'd think that would do well if they did it properly (ie not those ridiculous limited run, 25 euros each lathe cut releases)

Especially the amount of great CD-only stuff from the 90s. You wouldn't even have the same worries about needing the original DATs as you do with a lot of reissues of old vinyl-only classics.

https://discogs.programascracks.com/Total-Output-Oraj-Untitled/release/16890915
previews
http://www.toolboxrecords.com/en/product/36282/hardcore/sodom-21/

Very reminiscent of the old DBN acidcore style. Great to see Sean back releasing again, although in the notes it says this track is from an old demo. I quite like the B2 track by Oraj also, sounds like early Micropoint style.

So I just received the Sodom 21 record and after playing the record in full I must say the B2 track by Oraj is outstanding. This is up there with the best early Frenchcore tracks imo, it really puts you inside the machine...

Speaking about SODOM, I also love the B2 track by Desolation on SODOM 25
https://discogs.programascracks.com/Oraj-Desolation-Untitled/release/18088894

And guys, if you like "old style" industrial Hardcore from , you might want to get a copy of the beast by Mouse :
https://discogs.programascracks.com/Mouse-Doom-Nation-HS-01/release/18146692

Tha A2 track "Aphrodite" is a monster! Really!

It's out!

https://discogs.programascracks.com/DJ-Waxweazle-Bubblegum/release/18275737
https://www.facebook.com/Rob.Headbanger.Waxweazle.Fabrie/videos/3883286331719342
https://www.facebook.com/Rob.Headbanger.Waxweazle.Fabrie/videos/3742813929099917/

https://discogs.programascracks.com/Slugnoid-The-Revenge/release/18307165

new Kotzaak and Fifth Era available for pre-order:

https://sbmonline.de/

Last year I bought the repress of Disciples Of Annihilation – Industrial Power '9d4.

Does somebody know if there are plans for more Industrial Strength represses?

Mentasm76
Not sure when it's released, but could be fun: DJ Waxweazle - Bubblegum (Picture Disc)

https://ultimatehousemerchandise.com/P17793-PG536-DJ-Waxweazle---Bubblegum-Picture-Disc-Pre-Order.html

Is there any audio of this?

I couldn't find anything 3 weeks ago.
The only extra info I found is that it's limted to 300 pcs.

https://waxweazleshop.com/vinyl/waxweazle-vinyl-bubblegum-picture-disc-pre-order/

I had the relesse on yt but got a message from rob to remove them

That's a bit strange. It looks like a pretty cool item, you'd think it would be OK to preview it a bit before it goes on sale or is it so limited the market is just for the purist/collector who wants to buy it regardless of how it sounds?

Must be shit 🤣

baldarse
Must be shit 🤣

Even if it is, the 300 pieces will sell easily and quickly for the novelty alone. It will make it's way to YouTube quick enough anyway so it just seems strange.

Yes, but tbh, I avoid any sellers trying to pitch items, which are available regular and just reselling the items for x3 the retail:
https://discogs.programascracks.com/de/sell/release/18275737?ev=rb

there's previews literally in this thread

SIL-E
It's out!

https://discogs.programascracks.com/DJ-Waxweazle-Bubblegum/release/18275737
https://www.facebook.com/Rob.Headbanger.Waxweazle.Fabrie/videos/3883286331719342
https://www.facebook.com/Rob.Headbanger.Waxweazle.Fabrie/videos/3742813929099917/

traffic_cone
there's previews literally in this thread

SIL-EIt's out!

https://discogs.programascracks.com/DJ-Waxweazle-Bubblegum/release/18275737
https://www.facebook.com/Rob.Headbanger.Waxweazle.Fabrie/videos/3883286331719342
https://www.facebook.com/Rob.Headbanger.Waxweazle.Fabrie/videos/3742813929099917/

Talking about audio previews. Is there audio of the track in them Facebook videos or is it just him talking?

traffic_cone
there's previews literally in this thread

SIL-EIt's out!

https://discogs.programascracks.com/DJ-Waxweazle-Bubblegum/release/18275737
https://www.facebook.com/Rob.Headbanger.Waxweazle.Fabrie/videos/3883286331719342
https://www.facebook.com/Rob.Headbanger.Waxweazle.Fabrie/videos/3742813929099917/

Very difficult to hear the tracks properly in those vids. I'm not into Rob's Waxweazle project, too cheesy for me but he's a great producer so I'm sure this will be a top release for those who love their cheddar.

Nekro
new Kotzaak and Fifth Era available for pre-order:

https://sbmonline.de/

https://discogs.programascracks.com/Darkside-2-Fifth-Era-Doom-HK-Misanthropist-EP/release/18480157

Finally heard both sides of that new Waxweazle release ' Bubblegum' via a set he's done on them streams The Darkraver does.

Both sides are alright, but absolutely nothing special.

I love the concept of new releases in the style of older Hardcore and on vinyl too - but far too many of them just sound like the more generic, bland, uninspiring tracks that were thrown onto labels like Digital Overkill, Digital Overload, Point 44, Daryll's Choice etc (obviously there's some tracks that are exceptions on them labels but generally speaking I mean).

Still defo worth buying for the picture disk itself if you're a serious collector with a little extra cash but as someone who only collects MP3's now, the tracks are of low value IMO.

The track Bubble Gum has pretty cool use of the Roddy Piper speech in that Carpenter film he starred in - can't the name of it atm - but that's where it starts and finishes for me.

Might be too cheesy for many of you but a new Malice vinyl EP is apparently pressed and soon to be released, according to the Kniteforce site. Test press is on here: https://discogs.programascracks.com/DJ-Psycangle-Once-Again-For-The-First-Time/release/18794503 - includes two unreleased tunes from the late 90s that were available on digital, and two new tunes.

I'm curious what the new tunes are like...I have heard the unreleased ones, and they're alright.

Not sure when it'll be out - KF are putting out a crazy volume of releases these days. But i'm curious to hear what's in store after this one, given what he's done with his other labels I'm sure there's good stuff planned.

traffic_cone
Might be too cheesy for many of you but a new Malice vinyl EP is apparently pressed and soon to be released, according to the Kniteforce site. Test press is on here: https://discogs.programascracks.com/DJ-Psycangle-Once-Again-For-The-First-Time/release/18794503 - includes two unreleased tunes from the late 90s that were available on digital, and two new tunes.

I'm curious what the new tunes are like...I have heard the unreleased ones, and they're alright.

Not sure when it'll be out - KF are putting out a crazy volume of releases these days. But i'm curious to hear what's in store after this one, given what he's done with his other labels I'm sure there's good stuff planned.

I found the two A-side tunes on YouTube. Are they the new ones? don't really like them. Nothing standout about them IMO. Very average.

You can hear all tracks on soundcloud. Very average release.

Early nineties gabber and terror from Celcius on vinyl and digital.
https://discogs.programascracks.com/Celsius-Voyager-Part-1/master/1977634 (incl. sound clips)

SIL-E
You can hear all tracks on soundcloud. Very average release.

Well I did think you guys might be ambivalent :D Anyway, this is now on sale: https://kniteforcerevolution.com/store/product/once-again-for-the-first-time-ep-12-vinyl - kinda what I'd expect. I still like it cos I like Luna C's stuff generally, but he was never that full on hardcore and this is along those lines.

There's also a best of CD of Malice: https://kniteforcerevolution.com/store/product/the-best-of-malice-2xcd

But I do think there's still potential for this to be exciting for early hardcore heads - it sounds like the plan is to launch it again as a label - hopefully meaning some new vinyl releases by some of the current crop of new early hardcore producers. KF is pretty good at picking up new artists and is becoming a real powerhouse in releasing records at the moment. So something more exciting could be coming...

Here's a couple of EPs that have some early hardcore moments:

https://discogs.programascracks.com/Smolny-Eleganza-EP/release/16782024 - B2 on this Polish EP is a bit like some of the slower "newstyle" type tunes the mid 90s.

Probably not enough for any of you guys really, but given how the lines between genres are a lot more blurry with a lot of new music it's nice seeing hardcore included in that mix.

traffic_cone
Here's a couple of EPs that have some early hardcore moments:

https://discogs.programascracks.com/Smolny-Eleganza-EP/release/16782024 - B2 on this Polish EP is a bit like some of the slower "newstyle" type tunes the mid 90s.

Probably not enough for any of you guys really, but given how the lines between genres are a lot more blurry with a lot of new music it's nice seeing hardcore included in that mix.

That Coco Bryce release is interesting, second track sounds like really early hardcore techno. Not that great imo but a curious record, I though he was a jungle producer.

Nekro
That Coco Bryce release is interesting, second track sounds like really early hardcore techno. Not that great imo but a curious record, I though he was a jungle producer.

I mostly know his jungle stuff, yeah, but I think he's done all sorts over the years. A lot of the early releases on his MYOR label are sort of weird instrumental hip hop, and I think he's done a bit of uk garage type stuff too.

but - he started out as DJ Y? playing free party tekno & hardcore I think, as part of ZMK, many years ago. and so more recently he revived that name for EPs that are sort of jungle / techno crossover in some way.

I like the idea of people coming to hardcore from a different direction or a different sound, even if the actual results can be a mixed bag.

I don't have a exact date but a new Italian label (Narkan Rec.) is meant to start it's operation soon. First EP will be a 4 tracker by HCM. A good amount of the profit made will go to cancer researches I believe. Worth the ! I know about the other 2 plannend releases... Which will be fun aswell.

https://m.facebook.com/NarkanRecords/?ref=content_filter

New Ruffneck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abB3DnXu7sI

released a few days ago, sold out already though: https://djruffneck.com/shop/ruff-060x-b/ - not sure if it was only on the site.

but at least someone is selling it on here for 150 euros already :D

also...not strictly suitable for this forum but there's a great quadruple album just come out with loads of new darkside breakbeat hardcore: https://parallaxrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/message-from-the-parazone-2 - i'm sure some of you might find something to appreciate here

I went to order the ruffneck record on the release date, 20 euros plus 32 euros postage to the UK - no thanks

traffic_cone
New Ruffneck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abB3DnXu7sI

released a few days ago, sold out already though: https://djruffneck.com/shop/ruff-060x-b/ - not sure if it was only on the site.

but at least someone is selling it on here for 150 euros already :D

also...not strictly suitable for this forum but there's a great quadruple album just come out with loads of new darkside breakbeat hardcore: https://parallaxrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/message-from-the-parazone-2 - i'm sure some of you might find something to appreciate here

Are there any other previews for that Ruffneck picture disc?

This one looks interesting:
https://discogs.programascracks.com/Lunatic-Asylum-Memories-EP/release/19318075

Nekro
Are there any other previews for that Ruffneck picture disc?

Not yet. 300-500 sold out in 20 hours without any previews. :-D

2Styliztik
This one looks interesting:
https://discogs.programascracks.com/Lunatic-Asylum-Memories-EP/release/19318075

It is! LA shared these tracks a few years ago on his soundcloud. Now finally on vinyl.

I have a feeling this won't be for a lot of you but new Detest album on PRSPCT https://www.redeyerecords.co.uk/vinyl/137035-prspct255-detest-glamorous-cool-kidz-stuff-[light-blue-vinyl-incl--dl--cd] - saw this on Redeye earlier. some of it does sound a bit too modern for my taste, but I can still hear some bits of the Detest I loved in the late 00s.

Also: new Stickhead on TNI: https://terrornoize-industry.bandcamp.com/album/tni-30-preview - audio previews are just samples of Skeletor though.

oh and I also saw this: https://discogs.programascracks.com/Various-Judgement-Day-Records/release/19385890 - couldn't find any more info. I suspect it probably won't be for me but even so I am curious.

traffic_cone
I have a feeling this won't be for a lot of you but new Detest album on PRSPCT https://www.redeyerecords.co.uk/vinyl/137035-prspct255-detest-glamorous-cool-kidz-stuff-[light-blue-vinyl-incl--dl--cd] - saw this on Redeye earlier. some of it does sound a bit too modern for my taste, but I can still hear some bits of the Detest I loved in the late 00s.

Also: new Stickhead on TNI: https://terrornoize-industry.bandcamp.com/album/tni-30-preview - audio previews are just samples of Skeletor though.

oh and I also saw this: https://discogs.programascracks.com/Various-Judgement-Day-Records/release/19385890 - couldn't find any more info. I suspect it probably won't be for me but even so I am curious.

The Judgement Day picture disk - the best tune on it is Atomic Playboy but even that's like a 6/10 - it's like a B-side Bass Generator release from 95/96 time IMO. The other tunes on it do nothing for me.

It's pricey too at £20 plus £6 postage from the producers/label direct.

I mean it's a cool collectors item for Hardcore purists who have extensive collections already and need to finish the collections off/keep on top of the collections but if you've only got so much money and trying to build a collection up, I wouldn't touch this.

There's samples of it on Soundcloud.

Technotrance was chasing a friend of mine to ghost produce some tracks for this judgement day label. I heard a couple of tracks and totally agree, sounds like a b- side of a 94/ 95 record you never played. I love stuff from that era but can't believe there'd be a following for it nowadays, sounds dated

baldarse
sounds like a b- side of a 94/ 95 record you never played. I love stuff from that era but can't believe there'd be a following for it nowadays, sounds dated

having found the clips now - yeah i'm not that keen on that.

but i will say, it is mad how much new music now that sounds like the mid 90s - jungle, techno, garage, house...it's now long enough ago that young people don't even know it enough to consider it dated.

so i could see tunes *like* that having a following now. but yes, that particular EP is not a great example :D

and it does still amaze me that anyone likes a picture disc...

https://discogs.programascracks.com/Fluorocarbon-Defenestration-Tracker-Action-Second-Version/release/19453879

Not hardcore but this new release by The Mover will probably interest some people here:

https://dearsoil.bandcamp.com/album/distant-carmes-diabla-remixes

sounds a bit like waves of life

repress of GTI #6 has been added to Discogs: https://discogs.programascracks.com/Atomic-Compressor-Untitled/release/19600429

looks like it was pre-order only on Toolbox, but sold out - so I'm guessing now you'll have to wait for someone a second hand copy. although at least they won't be as rare as the original I guess!

Sold out 1st day of preorder. Ive noticed alot of bell-ends asking 350 euros for those sov represses of sodom / speedy q's, no doubt tjis will be the same