...produced for the company xy...

"Produced & Recorded by Jimmy Bowen for Lynwood Productions, Inc."
http://discogs.programascracks.com/history?release=2891552#latest

What would be the correct role for the company on the LCCN ?
'Produced at' or just 'Record Company' ?
I think, "produced at" is not the best way, but ok for now.

Produced At - The studio where the release was produced. Do not confuse this with manufacturing.

so this is not an option.
I've always wondered myself what to use and then didn't use anything as none of the roles seem to match.

At the moment, what tends to happen is this:
Producer [For Lynwood Productions, Inc] - Jimmy Bowen.

It's unwieldy though. It also applies to management and design too.

Eviltoastman
It also applies to management and design too.

There is a Designed At company role for artwork as I discovered today. So that can be used.

Was thinking the exact same thing yesterday...

Eviltoastman
Producer [For Lynwood Productions, Inc] - Jimmy Bowen.

That's about as close as you can get... there are no LCCN-credits that fit the bill AFAICS

Eviltoastman
It's unwieldy though

No kidding,
Argent - Hold Your Head Up

A "Produced For" company credit would do the trick...

"Produced for" would be good. After all these are just production "companies" of the artist/producer of the songs. As far as I know it only serves for tax purposes and maybe for collecting royalties.
Here's a link I found on the subject (second post on that page): http://www.futureproducers.com/forums/production-techniques/getting-started/producers-have-publishing-production-companies-218129/3

velove
There is a Designed At company role for artwork as I discovered today. So that can be used.

I use it when a release says "Designed at" but 'for' does not mean 'at' or 'by', otherwise you'd use "Produced at"...

Eviltoastman
and design too.

Eviltoastman
I use it when a release says "Designed at"

That's what I was referring too. You first said that design has the same issues with lacking company credits (at least that's how I read your response)

I have found an old topic with Nik's comment:
http://discogs.programascracks.com/help/forums/topic/333241

Therefore would be 'record company' ok...

honestly I find it much too vague in this example to find any credit that would fit.

bump this topic because it's not really clear whether we can add the Production Companies as Record Company.

http://discogs.programascracks.com/help/forums/topic/333241#3116661
nik says, ... is fine for the moment. But how long is the moment?

Maybe it would be good addition to the "Record Company" to have a "Production Company" in the LCCN drop down.

kraftberg
Maybe it would be good addition to the "Record Company" to have a "Production Company" in the LCCN drop down.

Yes please. I have put production companies in the Notes section because Record Company just doesn't feel right.

HM-2
"Produced for" would be good. After all these are just production "companies" of the artist/producer of the songs.

IMHO "Produced Through" would be better.
It applies an attachment, which is open-ended enough for it to be 'produced for', or 'produced by', or 'produced with assistance from', etc.
As in Eviltoastman's good example;

Eviltoastman
At the moment, what tends to happen is this:
Producer [For Lynwood Productions, Inc] - Jimmy Bowen.

It's unwieldy though. It also applies to management and design too.

Edit;
Credits:
Producer - Jimmy Bowen
LCCN:
Produced Through - Lynwood Productions, Inc

swagski
"Produced Through" would be better.

But it is always "Produced for" on the releases.
We have an entry for almost everything but not for production companies. That is very unfortunate.

kraftberg
Maybe it would be good addition to the "Record Company" to have a "Production Company" in the LCCN drop down.

would be nice

kraftberg
http://discogs.programascracks.com/help/forums/topic/333241#3116661
nik says, ... is fine for the moment.

fact or stopgap?

Oh please can we have "Production Company" as a choice from the LCCN drop down?

kraftberg
Maybe it would be good addition to the "Record Company" to have a "Production Company" in the LCCN drop down.

&

Bong
can we have "Production Company" as a choice from the LCCN drop down?

Seems the eminently simplest solution to me. It would be good to resolve this repeated issue folks have had over time since the LCCNs were introduced; just offer that one extra tag dropdown.

kraftberg
Production Company" in the LCCN drop down.

will be nice..

My wish in the LCCN drop down:

Production Conpany
Management Company
Photography Company

Don't forget this last one, it is often credited on release: "Photography By... (name of the company)".

kraftberg
"Production Company" in the LCCN drop down.

This subject should not be forgotten.

kraftberg
"Production Company" in the LCCN drop down.

+1

valparaiso
Management Company
Photography Company

+1

The "Produced For" LCCN attribute was requested from the very beginning of LCCN. It goes beyond my understanding why it hasn't been added yet, although it appears on ten thousands of releases: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Adiscogs.programascracks.com+%22produced+for%22
(I mean: it needed just one forum post from my humble self, and the "Exported By" attribute was included as well…)

loukash
It goes beyond my understanding why it hasn't been added yet

yes me too...

Production Company" in the LCCN drop down.

+ 1000

Mrzigzac
Production Company" in the LCCN drop down.

+ 1000

+1, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be added.
It would only enrich the database's quality.

pano9000
I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be added

thx.
more +1 plx.

loukash
"Produced For" LCCN

+1

Production company would not be right. "produced for" should be enough. It;s the credit which appears. I've never seen "production company" and seems to be pulled out of thin air and does not make any sense as a production company is one which puts on a musical production in the theatre, or am I missing something and is this what you;re trying to achieve?

Personally, I've found more recently I've been in need of a Produced By credit for all the private event/school band type remote recordings I've been doing recently.

I have also noticed that in some occassions, like with Columbia Special Products type releases that it may state "Produced For (brand) By CSP" or the like, where in which the Marketed By tag was more suitable.

Eviltoastman
"produced for"

this would be even better. +1

aasaxell
A "Produced For" company credit would do the trick.

HM-2
"Produced for" would be good.

kraftberg
always "Produced for" on the releases.

loukash
The "Produced For" LCCN

Eviltoastman
"produced for" should be enough

+1
how many +1 we need?

Count me in as well

anyone here already sent a SR?
If not, I guess it's time we should?

pano9000
anyone here already sent a SR?

yes :)

I have asked for a developer to add this company credit - Add "Produced For" to the company credit list after "Exported By".

Excellent news!

nik
Add "Produced For" to the company credit list after "Exported By".

Big Thanks!

Yay!

Nice!

kraftberg
Maybe it would be good addition to the "Record Company" to have a "Production Company" in the LCCN drop down.

YES, please!

valparaiso
Don't forget this last one, it is often credited on release: "Photography By... (name of the company)".

Yeah, and it's something I don't like at all.

Eviltoastman
Production company would not be right. "produced for" should be enough. It;s the credit which appears. I've never seen "production company" and seems to be pulled out of thin air and does not make any sense as a production company is one which puts on a musical production in the theatre, or am I missing something and is this what you;re trying to achieve?

nik
I have asked for a developer to add this company credit - Add "Produced For" to the company credit list after "Exported By".

Well, in Spanish releases is quite often to see these production credits. It usually looks like "Una producción de [Production Company] para [Record Company]"—which could be translated as "A [Production Company] production for [Record Company]. So "Produced for" could trick some submitters—Maybe I don't understand the use of the proposition "for", but IMO "For" usually indicates "for" the Record Company. That's why I'd prefer the credit "Production Company". Much more unequivocal.

Good news to have a production company role. My heart leps as a deep, many moons since....

very nice...:)

nice...
how about adding some
remixed/recorded/arranged/programmed/edited/engineered/all-sorts-of-instruments/management for

julass
how about adding some
remixed/recorded/arranged/programmed/edited/engineered/all-sorts-of-instruments/management for

Good point.
Perhaps an attribute like "Artistic Company" (as opposed to "Record Company") would have been better to cover all these variations.

We have now added the 'Produced For' credit.

Juanfraner
Well, in Spanish releases is quite often to see these production credits. It usually looks like "Una producción de [Production Company] para [Record Company]"—which could be translated as "A [Production Company] production for [Record Company]. So "Produced for" could trick some submitters—Maybe I don't understand the use of the proposition "for", but IMO "For" usually indicates "for" the Record Company. That's why I'd prefer the credit "Production Company". Much more unequivocal.

Ahh, that is a bit of a fly in the ointment. But earlier in the thread, we had stated:

Eviltoastman
Production company would not be right. "produced for" should be enough. It;s the credit which appears. I've never seen "production company"

nik
We have now added the 'Produced For' credit.

Thanks for rapid implementation.

nik
Ahh, that is a bit of a fly in the ointment.

Well, a good solution to this setback could be introducing a "Produced By" or "Produced Through" role in LCCN section (as it was stated):

Diognes_The_Fox
Personally, I've found more recently I've been in need of a Produced By credit for all the private event/school band type remote recordings I've been doing recently.

swagski
IMHO "Produced Through" would be better.
It applies an attachment, which is open-ended enough for it to be 'produced for', or 'produced by', or 'produced with assistance from', etc.

IMO, "Produced For"—which I think is necesary—is not enough for covering the roles of production companies/labels.

What is the difference between "Produced By" and "Producer"?

I suppose in some cases "produced by" may refer to the physical manifestation of the release aka manufactured by stating that the physical release was literal a product of a manufacturing process by "company x". I;ve not seen many releases like this and none spring to mind.

also "An xxx Production" / "A Production of xxx"

nik
What is the difference between "Produced By" and "Producer"

I'm not talking about the person who produces the record but about the company which produces de record. "Produced By", in the LCCN section, would mean "Produced By [Company]".

muntz
also "An xxx Production" / "A Production of xxx"

Yes, something like that...

Look at this threat: http://discogs.programascracks.com/forum/thread/5215194a9469733cfcfb8afa#5215194a9469733cfcfb8adc

Finally El Cometa De Madrid was entered as a Series. Not correct in my opinion. A role for Production Company in LCCN section—"Produced By", "Produced Through", "A Production Of", whatever—will solve the problem.

Juanfraner
problem

Yes imo ia problem that can be solve just adding these so long-awaited role

so, can we use "Produced For" when a release says "A [...] Production" / "A (Co-)Production of [...]"?
many classical releases have this kind of credits for institutions, while also crediting artists as producers

muntz
so, can we use "Produced For" when a release says "A [...] Production" / "A (Co-)Production of [...]"?
many classical releases have this kind of credits for institutions, while also crediting artists as producers

IMO is not the same. That's why I was asking for a "Produced By/Through/Production Company" role.

nik
We have now added the 'Produced For' credit.

Thnaks!!

Juanfraner
"Produced By/Through/Production Company" role

This would be nice. Especially on production company credits like this:
http://discogs.programascracks.com/viewimages?release=4806906

As you see there is no producer credit, just a production company.

Hi, Can I use "Produced For" tag with this?:
"Una Produccion ZZelesta distribuida por Hispavox"
"A Hispavox"