Discogs sleeve note of the day

Part of the joy of the daily wantlist email is the amazing repertoire of sleeve notes so I thought we should collect the best ones.

Today I saw this:

“One label has been double printed which makes it look pretty cool.”

Because who doesn’t want a double printed label, right?

Also “better than VG+ so graded Near Mint”

Sleeve = VG+ - then in the notes "generic sleeve"

leggyemulous
Sleeve = VG+ - then in the notes "generic sleeve"

Discogs classic!

I dread to think about the wasted hours spent grading replacement house bags

"brand new mint only played a few times"

PkayDubsaw
"brand new mint only played a few times"

SO many times \\\\\\\\\\///////////

It’s not that complicated is it

“Played a few times but lovingly handled”

Which is also how I like my men.

“ Small price tag/sticker on sleeve can be removed without a trace”

“ HIGH GLOSS VG+”

“ nice. cheap shipping”

“ Shipping in March”

(It’s 9th Feb)

SamVariation
Track is 45 BPM, so your mix stays in time even if the record skips.

It does? TAKE MY MONEY

surprised they didn't try to add the double printed label as a new release. i'm surprised sometimes at the sort of thing people will add as a release variant - like an EP where some copies have the tracks on side B in the wrong order, and some where it's right, or a typo on the cover. maybe i'm just not a proper collector but that seems unnecessary for most dance music... and can make it easier to accidentally list the wrong one as a seller.

i mean i noticed that one new EP from last year has two releases - the original pressing in March 2019, and then when they released a few more copies it was added as a repress, with the date May. everything else the same of course. I mean that's just daft surely?

SamVariation
Track is 45 BPM, so your mix stays in time even if the record skips.

took me a while to even understand the logic there...

although...i definitely have a few 180 bpm records pressed at 45, and by the same logic if they skip they would stay in time, as 180 is 4*45...and my experience would say that does not happen :D

the one that annoys me every time i see it is from the seller marksclassics (whose stock is all at least twice the median price)

"Shipped immediately from a reputable company with a number. Don't buy from cheap sellers and regret it afterwards"

Most of the sellers who overprice stuff I think are just idiots, but with this guy its the fact he's actually saying his service is so much better it's worth paying at least double. Because you can phone him up. Plus it's slightly undermined by his 98.5% - which isn't bad, but still probably lower than a lot of the cheap sellers he's disparaging :D

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the one that annoys me every time i see it is from the seller marksclassics (whose stock is all at least twice the median price)

"Shipped immediately from a reputable company with a number. Don't buy from cheap sellers and regret it afterwards"

Most of the sellers who overprice stuff I think are just idiots, but with this guy its the fact he's actually saying his service is so much better it's worth paying at least double. Because you can phone him up. Plus it's slightly undermined by his 98.5% - which isn't bad, but still probably lower than a lot of the cheap sellers he's disparaging :D

Tbh describing yourself as “reputable” is a bit double edged anyway, it’s hardly an endorsement.

And what possible difference does a phone number make? No one wants to make phone call anyway

yeah it's like running a restaurant and describing your food as edible - boasting about something so basic is almost suspicious.

to me the phone number bit is supposed to imply that he's a full time seller (and thus more organised etc). although it's a really odd way of putting it. i guess he's implying that his *business* has a phone thus making it more legit than some person with a full time job selling on the side (which i think anyone who's bought on here would know isn't true)

although one of the advantages of the part time sellers is they don't need to pay the rent by massively overcharging...I mean I know the overpricing sellers is such a stale topic but it is still quite amazing sometimes...for example: https://discogs.programascracks.com/Dark-Deadly-Dark-Deadly-Vol-2/release/387372

Lol, sleeve note “lovely copy” aka only copy available

“ Mint. Played one time, only”

This seller is amazing with a lot of his notes!
https://discogs.programascracks.com/seller/r6rac28/profile every time I see this guys comments I crack up hard ahahahahah

^ :D that's a bold marketing strategy. i particularly like on a formation album: "contains all 8 plates of bullshit" and on another "no just no"

he has healthy contempt for both commercial d&b and punctuation

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^ :D that's a bold marketing strategy. i particularly like on a formation album: "contains all 8 plates of bullshit" and on another "no just no"

he has healthy contempt for both commercial d&b and punctuation

I love the notes they make me laugh hard

best thread in years. :D

SamVariation
Track is 45 BPM, so your mix stays in time even if the record skips.

LOL LOL LOL ?

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Don't buy from cheap sellers and regret it afterwards"

Makes me chuckle everytime! ... but not as much as "Genuine Mint vinyl never played check inside spindle ..wont clean to show original dust on grooves "

I love 90's dust, much better than 00's dust.

https://discogs.programascracks.com/seller/r6rac28/profile every time I see this guys comments I crack up hard ahahahahah

Amusing ! :)

[quote=busta1][/quote]

From one of his records for sale,

“old gear was ok back in the day”

LMAO!

That guys listings are hilarious. Here's a couple you can use mate,

So shit, flys are attracted as you slide it out the cover.

This record contains more cheese than a french hypermarket.

Dred_Junglist
This seller is amazing with a lot of his notes!
https://discogs.programascracks.com/seller/r6rac28/profile every time I see this guys comments I crack up hard ahahahahah

Fuckin lol! He’s not going to sell those anytime soon!

“what happend to fresh man tune was ok but still COME ON FRESH!“

it works for me in fairness :D least it's honest, and if i'm looking up the tune I probably like it anyway and would be happy to take it off the hands of someone that it's clearly causing some distress...

i particularly like "not about this life no more", that's sort of wistful. kinda suggests his taste in d&b actually forced him to re-evaluate his entire lifestyle.

He’s got some absolute rotters for sale to be fair, think I’d probably reevaluate my entire lifestyle too

as someone into happy hardcore i'd be on shaky ground ing judgement myself :D

he should embrace the cheese, that's the true path to inner freedom.

traffic_cone
98.5% - which isn't bad

With the number of sales that guy has, it is actually pretty bad.

Well...what i mean by that is that out of context i guess that isn't bad. a 98.5% chance of something going well is alright.

But in the context of DIscogs, when most sellers have 99%+, then yeah it is. And the comments for many of them say that he wasn't repsonding to their messages, which is worse...because i mean, mistakes can happen, but if you're ignoring complaints you're definitely dodgy.

“warped, skips“ (F)

"Played but in fine condition typical of a record that’s 26 years old!"

one you see variations of occasionally, which really means nothing...

traffic_cone
"Played but in fine condition typical of a record that’s 26 years old!"

one you see variations of occasionally, which really means nothing...

Surely this just means AVOID lol

SamVariation
59.95 GBP
Media: VG+
Sleeve:
Decent vg+ only light marks priced to sell,
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Cheap as chips mate.

Priced to sell is CLASSIC.

I much prefer it to priced not to sell, which you have to assume no one does

Judging by the number of sellers trying to sell stuff for triple the going rate, or brand new releases you can still buy for £35 - I think a lot of people are, they just don't know it :D In fact today I saw someone selling the DIgital Pressure EP on Juice Box - going for around 40ish on average - for £140. but wait - it's a G+ copy which has a skip in it. I'll take three!

What bugs me about "priced to sell" is - we can see the price mate, we can work it out. It's like trying to sell something by saying "hey, it's cheap!" and hoping that the power of suggestion will do the rest.

Yeah £140 should be labelled ‘priced to extort’ for that one

“Hairline marks and scuffs over both sides, one small feel-able scratch 1/5 way into aa side- causes one skip when played. Otherwise in good playable condition. Sleeve is slightly ripped and knocked”

£140

bordes ligeramente desgastados

“NO PEN”

What if I wanted pen though? Like all over the label ideally

i was once given bad for saying "pen on label" when the previous owner had drawn something stupid on one side of a record...the buyer felt that just "pen on label" was insufficient. i mean i guess, thought it was a bit harsh though...

deference
What if I wanted pen though? Like all over the label ideally

a friend of mine who i used to do a lot of trading pre-Discogs marketplace way back once acquired a bunch of old Scottish/Dutch hardcore from a time when lots of the labels did coloured vinyl...and the previous owners had scribbled all over the actual vinyl itself, as well as the labels :/

deference
What if I wanted pen though? Like all over the label ideally

I've been know to add black marker spirals to white labels as their spinning, but only when my brain was under the influence of foreign elements ;)

Spiraled one side of an original Ramm002 once, wonder how much that will have knocked the price....

This cropped up on something from the wantlist the other day

Light hairline marks, one small, light scratch measuring approv 7mm on Side A, Track 1. Plays very nicely, got this from Stevie Wonder.

I would've bought it, but the stars weren't aligned and I am very superstitious

djph-1
This cropped up on something from the wantlist the other day

Light hairline marks, one small, light scratch measuring approv 7mm on Side A, Track 1. Plays very nicely, got this from Stevie Wonder.

I would've bought it, but the stars weren't aligned and I am very superstitious

There was a dj called Stevie wonder - or Stevee Wonder if I correctly?

djph-1
very superstitious

very good ! ;)

my old mate from bush was called Stevie wonder, he wrote his name on a LOT of old skool hardcore & jungle vinyl. A LOT !

djph-1
This cropped up on something from the wantlist the other day

Light hairline marks, one small, light scratch measuring approv 7mm on Side A, Track 1. Plays very nicely, got this from Stevie Wonder.

I would've bought it, but the stars weren't aligned and I am very superstitious

10/10 would read again, lol

i will say, the real place for this sort of thing is definitely eBay. i mean it gives DIscogs a run for its money in of optimistically priced items (shout to the guy who's been trying to sell Tom & Jerry 1-12 for £3000 for the last year at least)

but at least Discogs makes you actually grade stuff - it's amazing the number of people that think "condition is used" is useful info.

anyway i saw this gem on there on a collection: "Here for sale is a sublime collection of sophisticated classic old school jungle, drum and bass and original liquid sounds from the golden era of Drum and Bass 1996-2004

This collection is of QUALITY UK Drum and Bass WITH A MAJORITY OF LIQUID AND JAZZY TUNES. Most of these tunes not on digital, online or in the shops. It is a bespoke collection, a piece of Drum and Bass history and even goes on to present day culture."

quite a bold tactic to just say "you cannot buy these anywhere else!" and just hope people take your word for it. also he's charging £2,200 for just under 300 tunes, many of which you could get on here for a quid...

(shout to the guy who's been trying to sell Tom & Jerry 1-12 for £3000 for the last year at least)

Shout received with thanks

Be accurate though, it’s ALL the shells not just the OGs, all in actual NM (and recent ones mint) and it’s offers, not £3,000 direct asking.

Obviously don’t want to be that guy but felt I had to correct with some facts.

Respect
Arty

i did wonder if it was someone on here actually :D that isn't sarcastic by the way, i don't really mind the high priced sellers i just see it as hopeful...everything has its price and all that. And apologies, didn't notice it was all 16.

the main thing i wonder when i see the same things on eBay for months is - does that not kill you in of fees? or can you list for free? haven't sold anything on eBay in a good while but will be soon...

(oh and i am curious what amount is the limit for the offers :D)

New to eBay so no idea pal but I don’t get charged. Plenty of wally offers etc but some very close ones. It’s a very nice bundle no snorters. Just waiting for the right owner I guess

Deleted, blah

Anyway, back OT

“ PLEASE NOTICE SHIPPING POLICY”

“http://www.mixcloud.com/Minko_Pukall/“

deference
Anyway, back OT

Apologies, derailed the flow.

Y'know, if your accurate in your gradings, this threads been an opening. Description of the record has become interesting. no shit.

VibrationCrew
deferenceAnyway, back OT

Apologies, derailed the flow.

No worries. We could have a separate eBay / extortion rant thread tbh

VibrationCrew
deferenceAnyway, back OT

Apologies, derailed the flow.

🤣

Yeah those are CLASSICS

"Coming from Ingo Sänger´s collection. The selling price will be split fairly between Ingo and laden3.0."

always important to know how the seller's profit is being shared (especially when the seller is charging double the median price)

“has a bend in the vinyl which causes a jump for the outer tracks, inner cuts play through fine, lots of light marks, tiny WOL“

“ G+ vinyl with visible marks.. *BUY with CONFIDENCE”

I DO NOT SELL ABROAD, TOO MANY MISSING PACKAGES.

original pressing flaws only

Shipped with love in our secure packaging.

Dred_Junglist
This seller is amazing with a lot of his notes!
https://discogs.programascracks.com/seller/r6rac28/profile every time I see this guys comments I crack up hard ahahahahah

On Dom & Roland's Killa Bullet / Dumbo: "the bullet should have killed him"

This is an old one from years ago (listing is no longer around).

If that link doesnt work:
"Some idiot tried to cut out the outer rim so this is a 10". If you're not interested in the first few bars then this is the record for you"
Media condition: G

^w. t. f. "record is destroyed"

GlassBox
This is an old one from years ago (listing is no longer around).

If that link doesnt work:
"Some idiot tried to cut out the outer rim so this is a 10". If you're not interested in the first few bars then this is the record for you"
Media condition: G

I did the same to my copy, but I measured it right. About 10.5 inches if I correctly? Took me years to find an actual sleeve that fitted as even old 78 sleeves are too small! One side is exactly a 10" but the other is more like an 11" and they just didn't place the cutting head right.
Also I heard a rumour that all the copies of this has a slight "shush" at the start of the beats as if Peshay or "someone" actually played the master plate out a few times?

Why do you do this?

“lovely sheen to vinyl”

which handily seems to be added as a sleeve note to basically all the 6,000 items you’re selling.

i'm always surprised how many sellers talk about how glossy and shiny their records are. i mean i get they just mean it's barely played but come on you're not selling dog shampoo...

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i'm always surprised how many sellers talk about how glossy and shiny their records are. i mean i get they just mean it's barely played but come on you're not selling dog shampoo...

I’m not sure it means barely played though, I’ve seen plenty of records that have been hammered but that retain some gloss - some wear can actually add a kind of polish.

Also an old knacker put though a cleaner can be brought back to some kind of glossyness even if it’s dead

“Only played once to check the pressing quality“

Orly

"Interesting shipping rates"

As opposed to the boring ones I assume

maybe interesting means fun unnecessary extra clauses, like "extra £3 if your house number is an odd number"

deference
I’m not sure it means barely played though,

right. i'm sure they're saying it to mean "barely played" but it could just mean "I've cleaned it". plus I've had clean new-looking records that still have a small mark that causes a skip, etc

traffic_cone
right. i'm sure they're saying it to mean "barely played" but it could just mean "I've cleaned it". plus I've had clean new-looking records that still have a small mark that causes a skip, etc

Yeah, 100%. I’d avoid any seller using that tbh - it’s not a grading for a reason!

i think sometimes it's just sellers going for the "over describe everything" method of marketing, to be fair, it wouldn't be enough to make me suspicious on its own... it just always makes me cringe a little because you tend to only ever hear that word in the context of hair :D

“ Look for discounts!“

Narrator’s voice: there were none

VINYL MORE IN MINT THAN NEAR MINT CONDITION NOT PLAYED MORE THAN ONCE OR TWICE

Another thing that is a piss take is sellers who turn on offers...but NEVER accept any. Especially when you’re being very reasonable and not wanting the vinyl for peanuts.

^ that's a Discogs equivalent of "@@@@RARE@@@@" on eBay....

Anyway, saw this recently: "VII Megamix got scratch on A2 and therefore crackles on A2. Rest plays excellent. VI Megamix more mint. Sleeve got Ringwear and is taped at the backside and bottom."

condition: Near Mint. price: 145 euros.

Weirdly the price isn't actually too crazy, it's a Thunderdome vinyl release and they all sell for ridiculous amounts, Thunderdome collectors are mad. But I'd love to know what that seller thinks "mint" means. Especially how one side is "more mint" than the others.

(Funnily enough I got a "G" graded copy of the same record a few years ago for like £10, and it turned out to be a solid VG - so it's nice that the reverse can happen!)

This is a really petty one, but: "It has a few fingerprints on it and hairline scratches but when cleaned should look nice".

That's on a Boogie Beat record someone's charging £150 for. Why mention that when you could just clean it yourself? Especially if you're selling it for 5 times it's normal price, is it too much to ask that you give it a quick wipe with a cloth?

“Media condition would be near mint if it wasnt for a small wobble in the vinyl that makes the needle jump. Ive seen vids of people solving this, for example by heating it. Any thoughts on that?“

brokennose
if you are a honest seller u have no negative s. simple.

Thats the silliest thing I've read on this entire thread. Simple.

^ 100% agreed. I think that's very optimistic that buyers can't be idiots.

anyway, here's one I had to add to one of my own items: "sleeve has a sticker of Annalise from Neighbours on the back".

I've had that record for ages and only noticed a few days ago it was stuck to the back :D

^If only you'd said Mrs. Mangle, I'd have been all over that ;D

those ones aren't for sale i'm afraid...